The patch notes are live for folks to check out as the servers should be up soon-ish. I’m not going to post them in full, but a few highlights:
<Update> Don’t forget there’s a new batch of top tier guild craftables as I mentioned previously <Update>
- I’ll be curious to see how the new Mounted Combat works, as well as what new mechanics are there in Wildermore like Aaron has mentioned. I like the concept of mounted combat, but more attention needs to be paid to the content for it to be anything more then a gimmic.
- We’re getting Hobbit Presents, so more incentive to log in a do stuff daily – or so Turbine hopes.
- A little more incentive to pay your rent – foreclosures after 6 months, so if you’re looking for a house, there should be some new openings coming.
- Turbine is really pushing Mithril Coins, and I expect them to almost completely replace Turbine Points for purchases.
- Yet another Legendary Item reset – so don’t forget to spend your points!
- I like the rested XP now applies to all gained and not just monster kills, but I’m not sure I quite understand all the potential impacts and/or limits there.
- Sorry Captains, but “Defeat Event Cooldown” reducing bonuses will no longer stack
- All sorts of class tweaks
- Another new barter coin – Warband Barter Tokens which can be used for the legendary pocket item upgrades
What else jumped out for folks?
Also, if you haven’t already, you might want to check out the 2 recent dev diaries on Mounted Combat and the Epic Story as these actually do go a little deeper then some of the other diaries out there.
Of course this is all subject to change, but there are some pretty cool aspects to Update 11 that I wanted to share with folks. I also will have a couple of suggestions for folks towards the end. Don’t get me wrong, Update 11 isn’t perfect and it won’t keep end-game folks busy until the Helm’s Deep expansion, but this update is better then what I was expecting. And I haven’t even done any of the Epic line, which always have good stories tied to them.
Visually, the area is quite stunning and unlike the other winter zones in the game – which is quite nice. Turbine always impresses me with how they’re able to keep creating different and unique zones. Adding to the beauty of the area, Turbine has stepped it up with their armor designs in this update. The end-game sets with Rohan were honestly pretty disappointing as the Hytbold sets were incredibly un-inspired. As some examples, check out some of the gear below:
Now as you can tell from these shots, we have all sorts of new tiers:
- new guild obtainable craftables
- requires mastery of the eastenment tier (double anvil)
- More reputation to obtain
- although this time tasks do boost reputation
- More barter items to gather, including another set of dailies
- some have likened the progression to Limlight Gorge
I also wanted to share a completely non-real item as I just thought it looked cool and I thought might be interesting to see if they actually use it anywhere.
I would be curious to see if they decide to do something like the weapon glow already in game for armor or shields.
In addition to all the cool looks of these sets, there are actually some interesting things going on with stats in this update. The guild crafted items all have 5 variants to choose from to give you lots of flexibility. I’m not sure about everything, but at least the Tailor, Metalsmith, and Jeweler items all have 5 options, which is pretty impressive. Granted, you won’t have set bonuses, but for many classes those bonuses aren’t that useful so here’s another series of pieces you can mix and match. Here’s an example of one of these pieces compared with the Hytbold piece.
This kinda makes my head spin a bit from a min/maxing perspective as there are now ALL SORTS of options to play with. As another example, here are the stats for the pretty eye-popped barterable bauble items available in the new zone.
So there’s some pretty cool stuff coming with Update 11, but it would really be nice if they find a way to squeeze in some sort of other update prior to the expansion. If they could do something like last year and add a couple instances and/or skirmishes I think that would go a long way. However, I have a feeling that the reputation grind is all we’re going to have to keep us busy until the expansion hits.
As for those looking for things to do, I’d suggest working on your crafting as the new goodies may require some work. First off, they all require mastery of the Eastenment tier (double anvil) where as the previous build recipes just required access to the tier, not mastery. Also, they do require the large guild items (the weekly cooldown ones) so it might be a good idea to stock up on those. Another option for you is that you can now trade up symbols such that small symbols can be turned into medium ones, and those can further be upgraded to large ones. I haven’t looked at the tasks yet, but it is possible there could be a re-use of item drops – but I’d honestly be surprised if they didn’t introduce new items.
While not a total cure-all for what’s going on with LOTRO, I really think Update 11 is a significantly good update that if more updates (and more often) were of this quality, LOTRO might be in a better state.
Shockingly enough, there’s a known issues list already posted. Pretty significant especially when there’s so much in there regarding loot not hooked up, which was one of the main selling points for this update. Seems like a minor issue – and I don’t understand why Turbine springs a release with no warning when there are this many “little” things un-resolved. Granted, it probably will take them time to wrap everything up but it seems like another pass of polish would’ve done quite a bit of good and not let the community down at all.
I was a little surprised that they sprung Update 10 on us yesterday, mainly because there had been so little PR for it. Pretty much the VERY light “developer diaries” were the only things leading up to this update, without too much fanfare. Maybe Turbine feels guilty that many people paid for this update almost a year ago, but oh well. There’s not much that’s in the notes that we haven’t seen from the pushes to Bullroarer so this should mainly just be a compilation of those patches. The full notes can be found here, but I picked a few that jumped out for me:
- Mithril coins are in – don’t forget to log into your alts to gather all these up
- All sorts of Critical Damage changes – hopefully this isn’t too broken
- Tons of power changes – there were mixed reviews of this on Bullroarer, but expect to need to do some tweaking to adjust to the changes
- Fate is now the leading contributor to critical rating
- New 6 man (Bells of Dale), and 3 new 12 man raids (Flight of the Lonely Mountain, Fires of Smaug, Battle for Erebor)
- In Their Absence instance cluster is now scalable
- Warden’s are now agility based
- All sorts of PvMP changes
- Forced emotes have a toggle now so you won’t be impacted by them
- No more defeat dread
- I’m still not sure why this was removed – was it really that big of a deal for people?
- Tasks and quests can now be completed in a raid
- I don’t get this one either – seems like this creates more potential farming issues like the Hytbold areas
- Trail foods can be made at ovens now – another “why did this take so long” thing
Overall it is good that they’re adding more instance content, but the massive system changes are always scary since they never seem to get them right the first time.
What are folks most excited about with Update 10?
The second build hit Bullroarer today and it included quite a few additions that were not there previously. You can find the full patch notes here, but there aren’t too many changes mainly the finishing off of the changes they had already announced:
- Fate determines out of combat power regen, not Will
- Quests can be completed/advanced in raids
- All sorts of class tweaks – mainly power related
- Various Mounted combat tweaks, again mainly power related
- All sorts of creep changes – shockingly enough, power related
- Freeps now get Battlefield Promotions while in the Moors based on rank which boosts Power, Morale, and Damage
- only active while in the moors
- Various tweaks to the new instance spaces
- New Armor sets at the skirmish vendors
- Warden sets flipping over to Agility (even existing Hytbold sets, which is nice)
As for the sets, we get not only one set per trait line but also two tiers of those sets. The first tier is simply deed gated by completing Tier 1 of the various raids. The second tier is obtained by trading in the first tier piece and two separate drops from the raids. The Tier one pieces cost:
- 2600 – 3500 marks
- 673 – 807 medallions
- 31 – 92 seals
I have no clue what the drop rates for any of these will be in the new spaces, but I’m sure folks will be finding out soon. Also, since the gear is deed gated, we don’t yet know what the level requirement is for that deed – but I’m sure someone will find out for us.
As for the stats on the gear, Tier 1 is essentially the same as the Hytbold sets with slightly different stats and bonuses but overall just as powerful. Tier 2 is a step up, but not a significant one, although it does include an additional set bonus. Below are some snaps of the pieces as well as some comparisons to the existing Hytbold sets I’m wearing. I’m not sure these are final as especially the Captain one is clearly not finished. Personally I love the looks of the sets and will probably be working towards them for that reason, but there are some nifty set bonuses that are intriguing.
The initial build hit Bullroarer yesterday for Update 10, and we also have some patch notes. There’s a decent amount in the notes, but also a number of things that are not in the notes, so I’m expecting not only Dev. Diaries to clear things up but also a couple other builds before it goes live. Here are the notes, but I also wanted to discuss a few items in more detail.
There’s a lot of debate on these new Mithril coins but in all honesty I don’t really care that much. The biggest thing that bothers me about the whole is that it was the first thing they decided to talk about, really ANOTHER currency added to the game is the most exciting and pressing thing for Update 10? But this really has very little impact on me since I don’t use those items and it will actually clear up some inventory that I was hoarding from lottery winnings, so there is that bonus. But I am wondering what’s behind this move and if we’ll see more of this kind of consolidation going forward.
The other big “new” item in here is all the combat system revisions. We already knew about the Warden changes, but we also get news about the Critical Effect changes, power changes as well as stat changes for Will and Fate. I can kind of understand where they’re going with all this and the general idea behind it, but it certainly seems like a whole lot of change coming and I just don’t have all that much confidence in Turbine’s ability to do system changes like this effectively. Every major combat revamp has taken at least another patch or two to actually get working, and I’m not even convinced the previous revision was understood since many are reporting issues with existing content. Essentially the changes boil down to the following:
- Wardens are now Agility based (we knew this from the dev chat)
- Agility provides 1 point towards Critical Rating
- Fate provide 2.5 points towards Critical Rating and is the main source of in-combat power regen
- Will no longer determines power pool but provides 2 points towards Tactical mitigation
- Power grows at a set rate per level
- Champs get 6 points of Parry from Might instead of 4 parry and 2 block
However, even with all these changes there will be no changes to existing armor sets (outside of Warden Hytbold sets) as all new armor sets will be built around this model. So I wouldn’t spend too much time or effort getting any armor (or jewelry for that matter) until after Update 10 hits.
In addition to all these changes we’re also getting the 3 raid “wings” as they’ve been described, a new 6 person instance, and scalable versions of the In Their Absence instances.
Other then that, there’s a lot of other little things here and there but I think those were the big three items I pulled from the list. I’m always happy when we get new content, I’m just worried that the shear amount of combat changes will make either this content or other content unplayable.