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LOTRO Official Update 10 Release Notes
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Shockingly enough, there’s a known issues list already posted. Pretty significant especially when there’s so much in there regarding loot not hooked up, which was one of the main selling points for this update. Seems like a minor issue – and I don’t understand why Turbine springs a release with no warning when there are this many “little” things un-resolved. Granted, it probably will take them time to wrap everything up but it seems like another pass of polish would’ve done quite a bit of good and not let the community down at all.
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I was a little surprised that they sprung Update 10 on us yesterday, mainly because there had been so little PR for it. Pretty much the VERY light “developer diaries” were the only things leading up to this update, without too much fanfare. Maybe Turbine feels guilty that many people paid for this update almost a year ago, but oh well. There’s not much that’s in the notes that we haven’t seen from the pushes to Bullroarer so this should mainly just be a compilation of those patches. The full notes can be found here, but I picked a few that jumped out for me:
- Mithril coins are in – don’t forget to log into your alts to gather all these up
- All sorts of Critical Damage changes – hopefully this isn’t too broken
- Tons of power changes – there were mixed reviews of this on Bullroarer, but expect to need to do some tweaking to adjust to the changes
- Fate is now the leading contributor to critical rating
- New 6 man (Bells of Dale), and 3 new 12 man raids (Flight of the Lonely Mountain, Fires of Smaug, Battle for Erebor)
- In Their Absence instance cluster is now scalable
- Warden’s are now agility based
- All sorts of PvMP changes
- Forced emotes have a toggle now so you won’t be impacted by them
- No more defeat dread
- I’m still not sure why this was removed – was it really that big of a deal for people?
- Tasks and quests can now be completed in a raid
- I don’t get this one either – seems like this creates more potential farming issues like the Hytbold areas
- Trail foods can be made at ovens now – another “why did this take so long” thing
Overall it is good that they’re adding more instance content, but the massive system changes are always scary since they never seem to get them right the first time.
What are folks most excited about with Update 10?
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#2 written by DocHoliday 3 months ago
That reasoning makes a lot of sense for raids, and I have experienced that. And they’ve erradicated all other “exploiting” areas so it may not be a big deal at all anymore.
As for hunters, I have no clue – I’m curious to see how my Warden feels
Not to mention the pain of loading/crashing all my alts to get the new writs consolidated. I’m running low on bag space and I know this will clear up a TON.
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#3 written by Crell of Riddermark, Vanguard 3 months ago
In beta you could deed in a raid =) ; Not gottena chance to test on live!
Also: http://www.lotro.com/en/game/articles/update-10-critical-defence-revision now has the U10 article instead of a U9 article, but I’m getting 403 forbidden errors =/
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#5 written by Dapper 3 months ago
The writ thing is a big mystery to me. I have never bought any of them and never used them, so whatever they are doing with those won’t affect me at all. Doc, I think your Warden will be OK, Your new tanking style will be Evade, Evade, Evade with a high Agility. I would also think moving from Might to Agility, will mean you will crit more which will make up for the damage loss due to a lower Might. What I was saying early was that Hunters and Burgs rely on crits for damage and I am afraid it is about to get nerfed. We won’t run out of power, but we won’t hit very hard anymore either. I’ll jump on my hunter first tonight and run a skirmish or two and comment more tomorrow.
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#6 written by DocHoliday 3 months ago
correct, you guys will be hit harder unless you stock up on fate stuff
I haven’t bought writs either, but I have a ton of things they’ve rolled up that I’ve won from lotteries and never used. I’ll be very curious to see what sorts of resets can be purchased via writs as I could see those being handy. Granted, not something I’d pay for, but something I’d use up my freebies on
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#7 written by Dapper 3 months ago
Doc, Ok, here is my report on Hunters. My crit rating was around 11,000 before U10. After U10 is fdropped to around 9,000. However I was fortunate enough to get into 2 Bells of Dale 6-mans last night T2 and even though we had a few deaths, we didn’t wipe and finsihed them both on T2. My hunter doesn’t hit quite as hard, but the dps on level 85 2nd ages is a bit higher and I am having no power issues at all. I’m going to go back and change some of the power legacies and relics/setting/gems to bump up my dps now that I know this. Also the OCPR is soooo much better now for hunters or anyone that had a low Will. Power pots will not be an issue going forward.
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#8 written by DocHoliday 3 months ago
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#9 written by Dapper 3 months ago
For me in 2 runs it was mostly Runes/Relics and some purple pants. I have 6 pieces of Hytbold, so they were vendor trash. A few got some teal jewelry, I know our Champ got a teal cloak with 150 might, but no vit. The teal crafted cloaks made by tailors have a lot of Morale that I am going to be hesitant to give up, because the teal cloaks are very heavy your stat oriented without vit. hunters are squishy enough without loosing more vit. I also poped into a 12 man pug Battle for Erabor run but that one will take some work. Very tough but interesting dynamics with the flags.
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#10 written by Dapper 3 months ago
Doc, btw, I know you posted pictures earlier, but now that I can see the new Raid gear close up, it is terrible cosmetically Except for the Warden gear. That’s looks great. I know you have a Warden so you need to work towards getting it. The LM gear makes you look like an Italian merchent. I wanted to sell pizza once I tried it on. The hunter gear made me feel like Robin Hood, so I guess that’s OK, but my hunter is a female elf.
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#12 written by Dapper 3 months ago
So after a busy weekend with my kin running the Battle of Erabor over and over looking for that ever elusive Tarnished Symbol of the Elder King (no I havn’t gotten one yet but several of my kinmates have) and Turbine taking down the flight to the Lonely Mountian ever so quickly, I have come to the conclusion that the Bull roarer server is a complete joke for testing new content. WE TEST NEW CONTENT, when it goes live and then Turbine finds out quickly were the holes are from all of us and nerfs or takes down the instances so they can keep us from acquiring what we want quickly. So now those of us that have been raiding all weekend and have the marks/medals/seals to at least get a couple of pieces of new gear, have to wait until we can run the Flight instance to unlock the gear. ?????? Nice job Turbine! Can you hear the sarcasm in my post?
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#13 written by DocHoliday 3 months ago
Sadly Bullroarer has turned into a PR area for Turbine and not as much testing. Although I will give them credit for lately actually having multiple builds pushed to Bullroarer, they are actually making some changes. But it still seems like way too much is slipping through. I also don’t understand their release/build schedule as it seems like they knew there were issues but chose to release before anyone expected it to. I think many would have been ok with a few more fixes if it meant slipping it out a week.
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#14 written by Dapper 3 months ago
So Its now March 20, 2013. We have a hotfix today (or a nerf fix as I call it) to fix some known issues and others that are known that are still broken and not going to be fixed by this hotfix (i.e. Flight to the Lonely Mountian) No more farming of the Battle of Erebor at T1 to get a First Age Symbol, much like the nerf of farming the first boss of BG a few months back to get a 2nd age symbol. Unless you are in a true raiding kin that can do 2 of the 3 raids on T2, you are stuck with your 2nd ages until the next update. People on my server keep saying “but I can see 1st age symbols at the skirmish camp?” However I don’t think you can trade in your seals for those until you finish T1 on all 3 raids. With one raid being down, that’s not going to happen. The reason I started this post with the date, is because it has now been almost 7 full months since RoR was suppose to be released (early Sept 2012 was our original date) and we STILL DON’T HAVE A COMPLETE RELEASE. Really unbelievable to me. I think my time with LOTRO will slow down drastically now. I feel like I could stop playing for 6 months and come back next Fall, and really not miss too much. A real shame for a game I love, but I have 4 toons with maxed 2nd ages, and not much reason to log on until the full release is available to us all.
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#15 written by DocHoliday 3 months ago
I can totally see where you’re coming from as I’ve pretty much done the same thing, RL prevents me from really grouping so there’s really not much for me to do in game these days. I am shocked it has taken this long to get things out, but I think even more shocking is the constant “farm” nerf. This behavior isn’t new, Turbine should know this is coming and yet they constantly do it. Or they should test things more realistically and be better prepared for what’s going to happen.
I’ll probably come back for a bit to do the Update 11 content but that will be a key point for me, especially when they can’t keep up promises for things like the allotment of VIP turbine points.
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Little things like the Quests and Tasks being able to turn in while in a Raid are great. There have been many times when someone is trying to get a raid together and folks are finishing up dailys or others things and they have to drop group to turn in. Very annoying. I downloaded the update before heading out to work this morning but my biggest concern when I return home tonight and log in is going to be on my hunter. At 85 she had 11,000 something crit rating with an Agility around 2,600, my fear is her crit rating is going down to <5,000 and she will be worthless. I havent been on Bullroarer, so I don't know how burgs and hunters will deal with this.